

The gunk all upgrades upgrade#
It just shows you what could have been done and has been done and what will be done to coins in order to upgrade them because money is to be paid thus providing adequate motivation. I would hate to own such a coin knowing what was done to it ie not being original surfaces and then I think about my entire collection and what I had not witnessed to those coins over the years. Such a shame to hear about this incident. Spending a few hours in the offices and watching what was going on. I have used silver dip once (hated the appearance afterwards) and acetone soaks a few times. It was a very eye opening experience for me. the coin to this day resides in a 66BN NGC holder. he then placed the coin in a flip and filled out an NGC submission slip. One of the associates in the office a very well known and senior member on the CU forums took said coin and put some oil/chemical on the coin and rubbed it between his thumb and index finger for about 30 seconds. I was complaining about a MPL that I had just gotten back. Was talking to the dealer at the offices where he was based. Perhaps it's really the coin and not the holder I truly believe that your perspective represents the best way to think about our hobby and providing a good starting point for future generations to also study and enjoy the way you (and i) do while taking care of coins until they are handed over to the next person in our hobby How do you propose that collectors disallow the subjectivity of grading and the ability of the grading companies to avoid liability?

I won't play the game and have a few select pieces for study and enjoyment and if I have a coin that tis obviously under graded in an older holder, there it stays for the duration of my caretakership. It is no longer the hobby of kings, it s the hobby of upgraders or the hobby of subjectivity and nothing else. Yet the grading cos throw multiple graders at a given coin and still rely on subjectivity to avoid responsibility. Why is it when I have a coin and send it to CAC and discuss it with JA there is no question as to grade to his eyes. I find it funny that collectors enable/allow/support such a policy. IE taking advantage of the big hole in the hobby, the elephant in the room ie that grading is allowed to be subjective providing a loophole for grading cos to have the freedom to make mistakes without any liability. It appears the hobby is set up for coin doctors/sellers/dealers by way of them resubmitting to the services for upgrades for profits.
